If you're celibate, no kids - which means all the perks of gavelkind, and none of the downsides. However - most christian realms or Indian ones will let you do the next best thing, which is to join a monastic order with Monks and Mystics.Įxcellent question! The answer to that is 'take a vow of celibacy', available at rank 2 in the order.
IIRC, most of the Byzantine Empire doesn't start with primogeniture, unfortunately with the exception of the Emperor himself, but he's not exactly a vassal. Last edited by Valentine Michael Smith 1 Dec, pm. A lot of people freak out because the 'title loss on succession' thing pops up but it's not a big deal. Well, since you're not specifying a small start, just one with a liege, Egypt and Nepal are both kingdoms within empires in The smaller you start, there's always a risk of being taken out in the first few years, but if you're patient eneough to give it a few tries, it can be more rewarding.Īzunai View Profile View Posts. Looking for something where I'm not gonna get killed within two years of starting the game. What's the best start with a liege? Preferebly with primogeniture succession or a way to get primogeniture soon after starting the game. Home Discussions Workshop Market Broadcasts.